I picked up the Paris Review Interviews Vol. IV at the library yesterday, which despite having been published just a few months ago contains interviews as old as 1954 (William Styron) and as recent as 2009 (Marianne Robinson). The journal has a fine tradition of publishing interviews with notable writers that run the gamut from the louche to the illuminating, and this collection is no exception.
From 1968 there is a rambling wreck of an interview with Jack Kerouac, who was deep in his cups at that point and living with his mother in Florida. At first mere Kerouac tries to scare off the interlocutors (Ted Berrigan, Aram Saroyan and Duncan McNaughton), mistaking them for hippies come to lay flowers (or whatever) at the feet of their hero. Once she is assured that this is a literary enterprise she allows them to stay and get drunk with Kerouac as he free-associates his way past their questions.
Despite the sometimes maudlin self-congratulation in some of his answers, there are moments of luminosity and even a pointed riposte when Berrigan asks, “How come you’ve never written about Jesus?” to which Jack sputters, “I’ve never written about Jesus? In other words, you’re an insane phony who comes to my house…and…all I write about is Jesus.”
He still had some of his wits about him, but it’s depressing to see these acolytes smothering him with the very substances — fame & alcohol — in which he ultimately suffocated.
Contrast this with the interview Gerald Clarke did with PG Wodehouse in 1974. Wodehouse was 91 then, and still going strong. “How about the Beats?” Clarke asked him. “Someone like Jack Kerouac, for instance, who died a few years ago?”
“Jack Kerouac died!” said the Master, clearly shocked. “Did he?”
“Yes.”
“Oh… Gosh, they do die off, don’t they?”
‘Deed they do. And while it may sound like sacrilege to some, I return to The Code of the Woosters with far more enthusiasm than I do anything by Kerouac. Which proves nothing, of course.
Both men were born writers. “Did you always know you would be a writer?” Clarke asked Wodehouse, who had written nearly a hundred books by then.
“Yes, always,” he replied. “I know I was writing stories when I was five. I don’t remember what I did before that. Just loafed, I suppose.”
In the other words of another born writer: Take it easy, but take it.